Is Table Partitioning certificated by QAD?

Posted by dvega on 04-May-2015 07:36

Hi,

Is Table Partitioning certificated by QAD? If the answer is true, please could you share the documentation?

Thanks in advanced,

DIEGO

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Posted by Libor Laubacher on 04-May-2015 07:41

Why would it need to be certified by QAD ?
 
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Is Table Partitioning certificated by QAD? If the answer is true, please could you share the documentation?

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Posted by dvega on 04-May-2015 07:59

A QAD customer is very interested in implementing TP, but his decisions depends on the certification of QAD
 
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Posted by Libor Laubacher on 04-May-2015 08:03

Why does not the customer ask QAD as it is their application after all !?
 
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Posted by Marek Bujnarowski on 04-May-2015 08:03

Maybe they can ask QAD?
 
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Posted by dvega on 04-May-2015 08:13

The customer thinks that we in PROGRESS can to have a precise response about this issue because QAD is one of our biggest partners
 
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Posted by Marek Bujnarowski on 04-May-2015 08:43

Precise response to QAD’s certification process status can only be provided by QAD.
We would like them to certify and support ALL our features.
However, as “one of our biggest partners”, they can have different approach and we’ll still do our best to make them successful.
 
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Posted by gus on 03-Jun-2015 16:13

the table partitioning facility is transparent to the application except in one respect: you are allowed to change the value of the partition key during an update operation. when you do, this can cause the rowid of the row to change. some applications are not affected by that but not all. Only QAD can tell you if their application would be affected. They probably have not done enough testing to be able to answer definitively. To be safe, they may be cautious and say no. But it is up to them, not PSC.

Posted by S33 on 05-Jun-2015 15:01

@gus --

Is it also true that in a partitioned table the recid is no longer necessarily a unique identifier? Can two records in the same table, but in different partitions, have the same recid? But not rowid? So if your app is storing recid's (Why??) or using them to do unique FIND's, partitioning could break you app?

Posted by George Potemkin on 05-Jun-2015 15:30

Find by recid for a partitioned table will silently failed. But Progress errors (e.g. 17390-17403) are still report the recids:

Index <index number> (<owner name>.<table name>, <index name><partition name>:<partition number>): Found invalid key <key value> recid <record identifier>.  (17403)

How to find a record knowing its recid and its partition number?

Posted by Richard Banville on 07-Jun-2015 09:15

Rowids are unique per table, records are not.  You could use the recid and partition id to manually build a rowid instead.  I did a presentation which included this information and the prescribed way to do it at PUG last year.  I can post it if you’d find it helpful.
 
 
 
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Find by recid for a partitioned table will silently failed. But Progress errors (e.g. 17390-17403) are still report the recids:

Index <index number> (<owner name>.<table name>, <index name><partition name>:<partition number>): Found invalid key <key value> recid <record identifier>.  (17403)

How to find a record knowing its recid and its partition number?

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Posted by George Potemkin on 07-Jun-2015 11:08

Thanks, Richard! I found an example how to use RowidGenerator in your "Table Partitioning - Application & Design" presentation, EMEAPUG 2014

emeapug.myweb2go.co.uk/sessions_2014.html

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